Talk: Acid rain

Does anyone else have an inexplicable, irrational hatred for the use of the term "Sunbow cartoon" to describe the G1 cartoon and want to see it stamped out forever, or is that just me? --KilMichaelMcC 08:13, 16 January 2007 (UTC)

You don't see me using it! --ItsWalky 08:24, 16 January 2007 (UTC)

It is cumbersome.

But I'm using it against the day we get another Generation 1 cartoon and everythign needs to be changed. (We have multiple G1 comics, id'd by companies.) Find me another term that meets that need and I shall use it. -Derik 08:48, 16 January 2007 (UTC)

Wait, what the hell are you doing? 'animated continuity'? Then why is Headmasters in a DIFFERENT subsection? IT'S animated. How the hell does 'animated continuity' == the US toon when Headmasters, Masterforce, Victory, Scramble City, Zone etc etc etc... are also G1- but are not 'animated continuity'?

Call me back when you find a real term, not your made-up word-rapery.-Derik 08:53, 16 January 2007 (UTC)

But those are in the G1 Animated Continuity. --FortMax 17:55, 16 January 2007 (UTC)

Yeah, Derik. If you hadn't noticed, the Headmasters cartoon on this (and every other page, if they're formatted right) should be a subsection of G1 animated continuity. See those little ===s? There's an extra set for Headmsters, placing it within the section above it. The table of contents? Look at it? --ItsWalky 18:03, 16 January 2007 (UTC)

Plus, the only parts of that continuity that actually had anything to do with Sunbow are the US cartoon and TFTM --FortMax 18:05, 16 January 2007 (UTC)

There probably should be some sort of subheading before the US toon material, though:

I. Fiction
  A. Animated continuity
  1. US toon
  2. Japanese toons
  3. Beast stuff
  4. Universe or whatever
 B. Marvel continuity
 C. Dreamwave G1 continuity
 D. IDW G1 continuity
 E. Random other things

It doesn't make sense, outline-wise, to have content at point A unless it applies to all the numbered sub-points below A (like a brief summary of all the animated continuity stuff to follow). If the events from items 2, 3, or 4 are going to be put in a subsection of A, the events from item 1 should also be in a subsection.

Also, can we maybe not be such jerks to each other on Talk pages? Thanks. --Steve-o 18:56, 16 January 2007 (UTC)

Pfeh, I like being a jerk once in awhile. Perhaps I'll channel it into writing articles instead so I can sneer at the person I'm disagreeing with- "See, I'm doing work!" -Derik 21:19, 16 January 2007 (UTC)

I disagree. I see nothing wrong with putting stuff in the higher hierarchy and then splitting it off into smaller subcategories as the continuity fragments.

(I should also note, in case you weren't just filling your proposed hierarchy with random stuff, that "Beast stuff" and "US toon" should not be in the same overarching category. They're both animated, but they're not in each other's animated continuity.) --ItsWalky 19:09, 16 January 2007 (UTC)

I agree with Walky. After all, the only thing that's exclusively "US cartoon" is Rebirth. --KilMichaelMcC 19:35, 16 January 2007 (UTC)

This is true- except as per this wiki's English-dominant perspective, we'd consider the english-language seasons 1-3 to be American, not Japanese ehen though Japan got them as well. Also, you forgot season 5. -Derik 21:19, 16 January 2007 (UTC)

This depends on if we want to have the various continuities in chronological order. The way Prime's page is set up, is like Steve-O's example, sxcept the US and Japanese fiction is integrated, with the (Japan only) and (US Only) on respective subheadings, and has Seasons 1&2, TFTM, and S3 seperated by the various Japanese events. that take place vetween seasons. THat way, if you want to read cronoligacly, there's no jumping around between sections. I don'y think there's a way to get Walky's setup to work with Wiki softeare, as you can't do this:

I. 
 A. 
  1. 
  2. 
 (back to A)

--FortMax 20:06, 16 January 2007 (UTC)

All I ask is an unambiguous term for the original American cartoon. 'animated continuity' doesnt' cover it. Nor does 'G1 cartoon'. Every TF series that came after had some sort of subtitle for us to ID it. So what're we callign just plain adjectiveless 'Transformers'? Sunbow cartoon covers it- but I admit I don't liek the term much better than Walky. (Well, okay, Walky loathes it.) So what term would express the same idea? Suggestions?

Also (And I haven't brought this up before) why are my 'Marvel UK' sections getting changed to 'Marvel Comics UK continuity'? I use a short standard heading so that I can create anchor links easily, and 'Marvel UK' is hard to screw up. The long form seems a) easy to express a dozen different ways b) unnecessary. There are some Marvel UK stories not in UK continuity proper... but those would have an italicized note stating that. Is there an operative logic here, or are the headers being changed just 'cause Walky thinks they look prettier with more words? (Hh. That doesn't come off as very conciliatory, but Walky threatened to ban me yesterday, so we'll call it even.) -Derik 21:19, 16 January 2007 (UTC)