Talk:Return! Our Scorponok
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HOORAY!! So that's one I don't have to muck with! Nice work, sir. :D -- Repowers 19:28, 21 April 2008 (UTC)
- I think that, if you'd done it, that monstrous summary I've farted out would be a bit more concise. :) - Chris McFeely 19:49, 21 April 2008 (UTC)
- Unlikely! I tend to summarize very lengthily, since I have no idea what's going to wind up being important. (I was very proud of myself yesterday for paring down several minutes of fighting to "there is a battle".) -- Repowers 20:52, 22 April 2008 (UTC)
Don't agree with the move. The existence of the episode is acknowledged even in English, and it got an English title from *somewhere,* suggesting that it WAS going to be dubbed, and they just wasn't. It goes by this title everywhere else on the entire Internet and it's not wrong, so I don't see the point in defying that convention. - Chris McFeely 19:49, 21 April 2008 (UTC)
- We're concerned with the end result, which is that this episode isn't part of the Energon series and references to it were removed. Officially, "Scorponok's Scars" does not exist. —Interrobang 19:53, 21 April 2008 (UTC)
- Except that every listing for the series does include it. Even when the episode was skipped out on Cartoon Network's website, the numbering remained intact, jumping from 32 to 34, acknowleding that it existed, but that it had simply never been shown. - Chris McFeely 19:57, 21 April 2008 (UTC)
- Listings and external sources of information are not the end result and subject to change. What actually makes (or doesn't) it to the screen is what counts. —Interrobang 20:05, 21 April 2008 (UTC)
- I agree with Interrobang. We should go with the Japanese title, as that version of the episode actually exists. --KilMichaelMcC 20:07, 21 April 2008 (UTC)
- Awwww, phooey on the pair'a ya, then! Phbbbbtt! :-P - Chris McFeely 20:42, 22 April 2008 (UTC)
- I agree with McFeely, mainly 'cause it feels very disingenuous, fingers-in-ears-lalalala to simply omit the episode from the nav box sequence (kinda like omitting OTFCC from the BotCon sequence, but that's for another day.) Still, I understand the reasoning for it, so I'll leave it at this: can we PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE get a dual-series navigation box set up for cartoons? Having two nav boxes on a page is just about the ugliest ugly that ever uglied. -- Repowers 20:52, 22 April 2008 (UTC)
- "it feels very disingenuous, fingers-in-ears-lalalala to simply omit the episode"
- We're not the ones who did it in the first place. —Interrobang 22:39, 22 April 2008 (UTC)
- As for the template, this is the best I got it to be. I'm sure you can see the problem with it. —Interrobang 23:34, 22 April 2008 (UTC)
- Heh, yeah. Thing is, it CAN be done -- we've got the whole US Marvel comics series setup. I just... don't know how to do it myself. :[ -- Repowers 23:39, 22 April 2008 (UTC)
- It would be a lot easier if the template wasn't deeply entrenched in Derik's "wheremi" nonsense. Then I could have just copied comicnav over. —Interrobang 01:13, 23 April 2008 (UTC)
- Okay, finally found what's wrong. Yeah, there's a disparity in the spacing, but I don't care. —Interrobang 01:18, 23 April 2008 (UTC)
- It would be a lot easier if the template wasn't deeply entrenched in Derik's "wheremi" nonsense. Then I could have just copied comicnav over. —Interrobang 01:13, 23 April 2008 (UTC)
- Heh, yeah. Thing is, it CAN be done -- we've got the whole US Marvel comics series setup. I just... don't know how to do it myself. :[ -- Repowers 23:39, 22 April 2008 (UTC)
- As for the template, this is the best I got it to be. I'm sure you can see the problem with it. —Interrobang 23:34, 22 April 2008 (UTC)
- I agree with McFeely, mainly 'cause it feels very disingenuous, fingers-in-ears-lalalala to simply omit the episode from the nav box sequence (kinda like omitting OTFCC from the BotCon sequence, but that's for another day.) Still, I understand the reasoning for it, so I'll leave it at this: can we PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE get a dual-series navigation box set up for cartoons? Having two nav boxes on a page is just about the ugliest ugly that ever uglied. -- Repowers 20:52, 22 April 2008 (UTC)
- Awwww, phooey on the pair'a ya, then! Phbbbbtt! :-P - Chris McFeely 20:42, 22 April 2008 (UTC)
- I agree with Interrobang. We should go with the Japanese title, as that version of the episode actually exists. --KilMichaelMcC 20:07, 21 April 2008 (UTC)
- Listings and external sources of information are not the end result and subject to change. What actually makes (or doesn't) it to the screen is what counts. —Interrobang 20:05, 21 April 2008 (UTC)
- Except that every listing for the series does include it. Even when the episode was skipped out on Cartoon Network's website, the numbering remained intact, jumping from 32 to 34, acknowleding that it existed, but that it had simply never been shown. - Chris McFeely 19:57, 21 April 2008 (UTC)
I don't particularly care where this episode sits- but I'd really rather it was at either "Return! Our MegaZarak" or "Scorponok's Scars". This halfway translated title bothers me. -Derik 03:27, 8 June 2008 (UTC)
- "Halfway"? Halfway would be "Return! Out MegaZarak", since it changes the natively Japanese words in the original Japanese title, bur doesn't bother giving the English equivalent for "MegaZarak". If those titles are to be altered from their original form to make them understandable to English speakers, then go all the way. —Interrobang 05:47, 8 June 2008 (UTC)
- If we're going to translate names from Japanese to english, we should make all the Convoys Primes and Primals too! -Derik 05:48, 8 June 2008 (UTC)
- And that applies to what, exactly? Never mind that the English Beast Wars comic maintains "Lio Convoy" and "Big Convoy", we'd also be making up names, unlike MegaZarak being a direct equivalent to Scorponok. —Interrobang 06:35, 8 June 2008 (UTC)
- If we're going to translate names from Japanese to english, we should make all the Convoys Primes and Primals too! -Derik 05:48, 8 June 2008 (UTC)