Talk:Wipe-Out

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I have long link built into Wipe-out's entry to link to the US comic in question. It looks like ass. I want something that floats right of the article like this with a link.

But that layout, tone, etc is all wrong. I think, especially on LARGE entries, we need a way to say 'This big important chunk here references an important story, and this is it.' Either floated like this or an inline (See: Transformers The Movie)

For Wipe-out, I could put a note in his header, he's simple, only one appearance. But in say- Optimus Prime's example... if your'e reading through a chunk and you see- "This story about Prime fakign hsi death and goignt o Cyberron to fight Straxus sure is interesting!" chances are it WON'T have a link to the article on the Prey storlyine, or any of the individual issues involved.

Which makes it really... sucky to find out more about these events.

So, uh... any suggestions? -Derik 03:22, 25 June 2006 (UTC)

Look at Ratchet's article. Observe!--ItsWalky 03:34, 25 June 2006 (UTC)

Using External links for Internal purposes seems to run counter to Wikipedia formatting standards as they seek to render the nature of the links readily understandable by appearance. -Derik 03:37, 25 June 2006 (UTC)

...although I do like the compact inline look of them, if not theit quantity.

Also, using external links means that even linsk to articles which don't yeet exist are color-coded as valid. Baaad. -Derik 03:43, 25 June 2006 (UTC)

*squints* Providing that kind of look wouldn't be hard with a template, like {{MoreInfo|King of the Hill}}, which could include the picture-tag after it like the external links have (uh a different picture though.)

Does numbering actually provide any meaning here? I'm tryign to picture what a compact inlike link format would look like. -Derik 04:02, 25 June 2006 (UTC)

Pardon me if I don't respond, but none of what you ever suggest makes any kind of intuitive sense to me. --ItsWalky 05:37, 25 June 2006 (UTC)

I may babble, but what part of 'maybe inline links to nonexistant articles shouldn't be color-coded as existant articles' is noninuitive?

The first link I clicked on to test this approach was #8. I got this [1]

The REASON for this is that you're forcing external links- which DON'T check if the article exists or not,t o perform a function designed for intenral ones. This link SHOULD be color-coded red, so I knwo the article doesn't exist yet, and not to click on it for more information.

I like the format/look of the inline link, but its functionality, as currently implemented, lacks in some very basic ways. You can reproduce that look with a template, and thus I was asking for thoughts on the matter. -Derik 06:25, 25 June 2006 (UTC)

CREATING AN ARTICLE JUST PUTS A BAND-AID ON THE PROBLEM! >_< -Derik 07:14, 25 June 2006 (UTC)

No, it solves the "problem." --ItsWalky 07:17, 25 June 2006 (UTC)

Only if you think this Wiki is not going to be an eternally in-progress resource. There will always be some dead-end links because a project like this can never be "finished". Additionally, as I've stated before, using external links not only breaks the color coding, but breaks all the nifty database links such as "what links here". It is an intrinsically non-wiki-ish idea, and I think it kind of sucks, honestly. --Steve-o 15:15, 25 June 2006 (UTC)

Steve-o, what about something like this? (the bottom.)

Same look, but it obeys working/nonworking. ...though I want somethign shorter than 'More.' Maybe a symbol...? -Derik 16:49, 25 June 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Story Link

This is my proposed format for story links. The rest of his paragrap is filler. Chris is a juvenile delinquent with a gentle side. ([ MF EP 6 | When he was younger, Chris and Wilder founded the Jack Boys motorcycle gang together. Chris loved riding all night with the leatherclad compañeros. They were free, and it didn't matter what society thought of them!

([ | The 'look' is based on line-markers used in books. The markup would be like this {{Marginnote|All Fall Down|MF EP 6}}, if you fail to provide the 3rd argument (a visible description) it defaults to a simple note icon, as seen here.

• There seems to be an interest in a simple system of linking to stories events refer to without disrupting the flow of the article.
• Putting them off to the side accomplishes this.

([ As a 3rd, even more segregated alternative, I suggest a format like this, as a literal margin link. -Derik 00:57, 28 June 2006 (UTC)

The first one's closer to what we need. I still don't like the King of the Hill link, and it'd be really obnoxious to learn how to implement for every fictional reference. "font-size:70%;background:#eeeeee;z-index:40;position:relative;left:14px;float:right;padding:0em .5em .2em .5em;border-color:#aaa;border-style:solid;border-width: 1px 1px 1px 1px;text-transform:uppercase"? Man. I am not typing that out, even before considering its visual impractibility. --ItsWalky 01:12, 28 June 2006 (UTC)

...David? it's a template. I show you the markup in the 2nd paragraph.

{{Template:Marginlink|Article_you're_Linking_to_|Optional_Note}}

-Derik 01:15, 28 June 2006 (UTC)

Yeah, and as you can see, it puts it on the right as far up as it can, instead of down here where it needs to be. And when there's more than one citation needed per line, it's going to be completely unreadable and impractical. --ItsWalky 01:35, 28 June 2006 (UTC)

It's at the top because I put it at the head of the paragraph to show its floateyness. Normally you'd put it at the end like this.([ MF EP 6 |([ |

So... yeah. I don't think the stackign is that bad, unless you seriously think you're goign to be referencing 6 seperate stories in a single line, each so important that you feel the article needs a link out from it.

What kind of functionality do you think is needed? Or do you just think it's not needed?-Derik 01:45, 28 June 2006 (UTC)

The wonderful thing about templates, is templates 'a wonderful thing...

Since there is at least some agreement about the types of info for such links, (articlo lk topponal note) regardless what format the preentation taks- if no one responds by tomorrow, I'm putting oether a telat.

We can alway change te TEMPLATE later if we change systems, and it wil be backwards-compatable with any links made using it. -Derik 05:21, 28 June 2006 (UTC)