User talk:PacifistPrime

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I have to be a bit of a nerd about capitalization. Even though it's the title of an article, common nouns like "fiction" and "scale" are not capitalized within a sentence. Only proper nouns are capitalized, like names, places, and organizations. This includes words in article titles and section headings. For example, an article title would be "Size changing", not "Size Changing". And if it's not at the beginning of a sentence, it's just "size changing". Just a nit-pick on my part. Thanks! :) --Crockalley 14:22, 22 March 2007 (UTC)

Cool, no probs. I'll try to do better in future. Thanks, PacifistPrime

Contents 1 Image uploads 2 'Safeword' 3 MP Megatron 4 Central discussion area 5 All Hail Megatron 6 Retcon 7 Copyright and usable images 8 The Diaspora 9 Legends

[edit] Image uploads

Hi, in the future, when you upload images, can you include info about what it is, where it came from, who made it and possibly who owns it if possible? Also, fairuse tags have {{ }} surrounding them so the script appears. Same goes for hastak, which is used when the picture belongs to Hasbro or Takara (such as stock photos of toys, packaging art), and comicinterior, used for comic scans. Thanks --FFN 17:49, 24 March 2007 (UTC)

Again, we ask you to use copyright tags for images you upload, and if they are not images owned by Hasbro/TakaraTomy, then you must indicate where those images come from. --FFN 07:31, 2 December 2007 (UTC)

[edit] 'Safeword'

Even though the caption has been changed now, I should point out that it is rather uncool in my opinion to wiki link the meaning of safeword, given how sexual it is in nature. While this isn't exactly a family-friendly wiki, younger fans and kids do sometimes visit, so please keep this in mind. Thanks. --FFN 14:05, 30 March 2007 (UTC)

I actually didn't change it - some other dude did. As for unilaterally changing captions, it happens all the time, even if you wrote most of the article and uploaded most of the pics yourself. I don't mind myself as I leave captions blank in my pics for others to fill in. Anyway, I didn't mind your caption, I took exception to linking it to the meaning, and in my opinion, if a joke is going to go over somebody's head (in this case the meaning of the term), let it :) --FFN 10:37, 4 April 2007 (UTC)

Yeah, you're probably right about that. I'll change it back without the link. Cheers, PacifistPrime.

[edit] MP Megatron

Figures Direct (an aussie toy shop) has said that the police and customs have advised them that customs will be on the lookout for Megatron and will most likely seize the toys. Sellers need to apply for a firearms replica license or something to get them in. This was also confirmed by a mate of mine who runs Transfigure Toys. So I'm concerned about how customs react to individuals getting them from Asia. --FFN 11:20, 10 April 2007 (UTC)

Well, what can I say? I got mine (two of them, in fact: one for my buddy) from HobbyLinkJapan (scum) with no troubles. Customs didn't even open it. Maybe I was just lucky, but I suspect that those toyshops only got that response from the fuzz because they asked in the first place. In fact, they may very well have tipped them off and made it harder for everyone else to import them now. Who knows? Cheers, PacifistPrime.

Well, I got mine, and I live in the US. No modification. So it seems we're even. Are there any actual difficulties in getting the toy into the US, or are all these difficulties merely perceived? --Crockalley 14:58, 10 April 2007 (UTC)

Interesting. I really couldn't say whether the U.S. importation difficulty is percieved or not. They certainly go on about it a lot on tfw2005.com. I suppose we'll just have to wait for a user consensus on that point. Also, I just wanted to let you know I've reverted that edit; no offence but I disagree with you: I really think that the "impossible on paper" comment is an adequately noteworthy point, as the way animated Megs transforms is impossible without shape-morphing, as the kibble factor and detail-approximation on this figure proves (to say nothing of watching the cartoon in slow-mo). I also definitely think it's noteworthy what an INCREDIBLY complex transformation the toy has. Wouldn't you agree it must be the most elaborate transformation in a TF toy to date? I've removed the word "fiddly" (which wasn't actually mine anyway), if that makes any difference.

All the best, PacifistPrime.

I should have pointed this out earlier, but you don't need to post the same reply you put here onthe talk page of somebody commenting on yours, because it leads to a disjointed conversation. Most likely a person who asked a question or commented would check back anyway :P

Yeah, blame the shops. They were checking to see if they were breaking the law. TFT asked customs about it last year and they were fine with it. Apparently they've changed their minds since seeing the toy. Its fair for a retailer check if it was worth the time and bother ordering this in, no? It would piss them off, piss their customers off, and piss their wholesale suppliers off if they do it under the radar and customs seizes them, would it not? --FFN 05:06, 11 April 2007 (UTC)

Well, that's fine. My main issue is the "difficulty importing". It's impossible to say that MP-05 is infamous for being difficult to import, because they've only just started coming into the country, and there have been no complaints, as far as I know. There is a lot of talk about worrying about difficulty on the TFW2005 boards, but there is no actual discussion about real difficulty importing. See what I mean? --Crockalley 11:33, 11 April 2007 (UTC)

I apologise to FFN for offending him with my comment about retailers tipping off the fuzz; I suppose that was a tad unfair, although it was a somewhat fecetious comment in the first place, so I wouldn't get too shirty about it.

Otherwise, I'm going to somewhat dip out of this debate. All I can say is that I'm an Australian who imported two unmodded MP-5s from Japan with no trouble. I'm not in a position to accurately comment on the difficulties (or not) of U.S. fans importing theirs, or even fellow Australian fans for that matter, as I don't spend any time on discussion boards. I'll leave it to user consensus as to how it reads, but at the very least I would think that SOME mention should be made about the feared difficulty of importation, since it led to various retailers modifying their MP-5s, which is surely an unusual enough act to be noteworthy. I leave it to y'all. PacifistPrime.

I changed your smug comment at the end of MP Meg's section, and posted a long explanation to why Megs will be/has been seized and what collectors must do to get the toy. See? --FFN 13:18, 17 April 2007 (UTC)

Um, hi. This is actually somewhat old news, as I haven't checked in for a week or so, but I respectfully suggest that you're overracting just a whisker. I was unaware that there had been further developments for other Australian fans importing the MP-05; as I've stated elsewhere I don't spend any time on discussion boards so I wouldn't know about any of that. If my original few lines on the subject (admittedly based solely on my personal experience of problem-free importation) is no longer representative of the majority, then I have no objection whatsoever to the text being revised.

However, I think that your edit is a bit of an overlong rave and (at the risk of sounding more Seppocentric than is my wont) I have to say that I don't think Australia's situation really requires as much text as that concerning the States'. Furthermore, I think that your rebuttal "Eat that, Australia" is particularly uneccessary. First of all it sounds like a rather mean-spirited bit of one-upmanship over a comment which, although I'll conceed was smug, was only meant in the kind of good humour that this site broadly embraces (such as its pervasive mockery of Japanese fiction). Your comment sounds quite barbed by comparison, in my opinion. But regardless of any issues of opinion it frankly doesn't make sense, because it is referring to a previous edit which no longer exists in the current text, so to any newcomer reading it the comment has no context. For this reason most of all I have taken it upon myself to remove that one line, but I have left your preceding paragraph untouched. However I urge you to reconsider its neccessity and respectfully suggest that you cut it down considerably.

All the best, PacifistPrime.

If you are so offended by the fact I made fun of Australia (and I suspect its abit of misplaced patriotism right after ANZAC day), then you shouldn't make fun of America, especially given our toy gun laws are even harsher. --FFN 02:38, 26 April 2007 (UTC)

Err... okay. I respectfully suggest that you're missing the point: I'm not offended, nor am I particularly patriotic. In fact, I'm a dual Austalian/American citizen, so your comments regarding my national identity are actually fairly irrelevant. And uncalled for. Don't you think personal remarks on this site are a bit untoward?

I just think that your edit gives the impression of being a bit personal, as though you were miffed about my original text, rather than containing material of particular relevance to other readers/users, especially your sardonic rebuttal. Again, my original crack was intended in good humour, so it seems that it is you who are the one getting offended. Perhaps this is not the case, and if so I apologise.

But regardless of that I still maintain that the content makes little sense. Please re-read my previous post for my reasons for this.

Ta, PacifistPrime.

Sorry mate. --FFN 05:05, 26 April 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Central discussion area

Regarding your note to Suki Brits, we do have a central discussion area: Transformers Wiki:Community Portal and it's talk page, Transformers Wiki talk:Community Portal. The community portal is one of the links in the left-hand navigation bar, right after "Main Page". --Steve-o 14:30, 26 April 2007 (UTC)

Steve-o said it for me. I need to clean up the talk page of the months old stuff, but go ahead and create a section there. That's what it's for. --Suki Brits 17:39, 26 April 2007 (UTC)

[edit] All Hail Megatron

Hi, we don't upload entire pages like that. If you really want to show some panel with those characters, then take the time to cut the panel out and upload it seperately. Also, we try to avoid image files over 100KB if it can be helped, though we will allow them if it is required for legibility.

Also, as this is not the Wikipedia, we write fiction entries (be they character pages or the story's page itself) "in-universe" as if they are events that happened. So we don't say things like "One year later, during the events of All Hail Megatron, Thundercracker, his fellow Seekers and the newly-arrived IDWverse Constructicons...". Also, the talk about alt modes and toys was inappropriate for a fiction section. --FFN 06:04, 21 May 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Retcon

Hey PP? I really wish you'd engage in the conversation over at Talk:Ironhide (G1)#Retcon rather than just re-asseting your edits when others change them. The consensus seems... very muddled and back-and-forth on what we think is the proper treatment for the Magnaboss characters. Right now the discussion lacks anyone really presenting "your" position- which leaves us in a bad position. -Derik 00:58, 17 August 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Copyright and usable images

Please given decent descriptions with links to relevant characters/topics in image descriptions, and provide copyright info where possible. As it stands, several images you uploaded onto the G1 Prime toy article have no indication to as who they belong to. Also, you (or somebody else) will need to replace several images because.. well you uploaded pictures of boxes. We prefer no pictures rather than bad or inappropriate pictures. --FFN 09:57, 31 August 2008 (UTC)

Sorry man, I've never been very scrupulous with that stuff, I'm more than willing to admit. Can't help you much with the existing ones (did them quite a long time ago), but I'll try to do better in future. Cheers, User:PacifistPrimePP 05:16, 1 September 2008 (UTC)

[edit] The Diaspora

Um, Could someone please edify my evident ignorance and explain to me what the hey is going on? Who's moving were? Is Teletraan 1 coming to an end!? SAY IT AIN'T SO! As someone who just contributes/edits and has no clue how wikis are hosted or maintained in a technical sense, I'd be grateful if someone could please spell it out for the computer simpletons like me...User:PacifistPrimePP 16:19, 1 September 2008 (UTC)

See the lengthy, agonizing discussion at Transformers Wiki talk:Community Portal/Leaving for the whole grisly saga.--Rosicrucian^Talk 16:22, 1 September 2008 (UTC)

Thanks, but that is seriously embolism-inducing material. Any chance at all that you'd do me a favour and spell it out real simple-like?User:PacifistPrimePP 16:31, 1 September 2008 (UTC)

It boils down to:

• The community consensus is that the Wikia ad situation is only going to get worse and/or more intrusive into article space.
• We have pursued alternate hosting, and initial tests with the database dumps have worked quite well.
• The resulting new site will still be advertising supported, but in such a manner as can be put up for community review, and quite likely to be TF fan news sites, toy resellers, and other targeted ads that the users are likely to actually want to click on.

Make sense? Flop-sweat over?--Rosicrucian^Talk 16:36, 1 September 2008 (UTC)

Thanks man! That's a BIG help. I'm obviously using some kind of different browser or interface to most of the rest of you, because I haven't experienced ANY of the problems with ads that everyone is talking about. Wierd, huh? Oh well, I'll happily follow y'all to greener pastures, as long as all our hard work is coming with us. Will all the article talk pages and edit histories be copied over to the new site as well? What about our user contribution histories?User:PacifistPrimePP 16:47, 1 September 2008 (UTC)

Both will follow you. You'll need to reregister, but so long as you reregister as the same dude with the same password, it'll all match up.--Rosicrucian^Talk 16:49, 1 September 2008 (UTC)

Sweet. Thanks a lot for the info. I'll just keep my eye out for the announcement of the move, hopefully of the main title page. Cheers, User:PacifistPrimePP 16:51, 1 September 2008 (UTC)

No problem. It should be relatively soon that it'll be announced in concrete terms. Derik and the admins are working hard to make sure it's as smooth a transition as possible.--Rosicrucian^Talk 16:56, 1 September 2008 (UTC)

The reason you haven't had any problems with ads is Wikia shut up most of the users complaining by turning off ads for people who are logged in (the 1% of Wikia readers, apparently). The ads would remain for people who aren't logged in, but this placated most of the complainers, because they're selfish. --FFN 17:28, 1 September 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Legends

TF:Legends did indeed include the notorious caveat you refer to- but at least one of the stories therein included a specific note from the author saying it took place in cartoon continuity prior to TF:TM. In that light wielding the collection's forward like a club to declare everything non-canon probably not the brightest thing to do-- or even what Scott Ciencen intended. Legends had like 8 different mutually-irresolvable stories from various versions of Armada continuity. Logic suggests that he was proposing we not break our brains trying to resolve them, not that the story by the writer of Beast Machines set during Beast Machines which doesn't conflict with the cartoon 'doesn't count'. -Derik 00:52, 3 September 2008 (UTC)

Um... sorry? Am I high, or you you basically pick and choose the rules of continuity that you feel like following on any given day? Or do you just enjoy disagreeing with me on principle?

Look, to the point - I don't see that any brain breaking is remotely neccessary. It's simple:

The editor (that is, ahem, David Cian) says these stories are "What Ifs", not part of the respective continuities in which they are set, regardless of how well they may fit. Stating that one story positions itself at a specific place in a prexisting continuity doesn't change that overriding editorial caveat whatsoever, indeed, several of the stories can be easily located at specific points in specific continuities. Thus, applying the official Hasbro line that we also follow here that "everything's canon... somewhere", the only other designation these stories can have is that they are micro-continuities. I'm not saying that these stories "don't count", or that they are cosmically noncanon, merely that they should not be regarded as actually part of same exact continuity as the BM animation, but rather a sidestep removed. i.e. they exist in a microcontinuity that includes everything in the show plus the events of the prose story. Just like the IDW Beast Wars comics aren't actually part of the Beast Wars animated continuity, and just like Beast Wars itself wasn't in exactly the same continuity as any pre-existing version of G1.

You follow?

By all means please argue your case, but I don't see any way around this other than to declare that this wiki treats Cian's forward as null and void. And if so, on what basis would you claim that right? As an official work, doesn't any statement regarding its own canonicty become something we just have to accept?

User:PacifistPrimePP 01:23, 3 September 2008 (UTC)